Join songwriter Sudi Karatas and me for an informal conversation about our Christmas memories and Sudi's original Christmas songs. He's got five of them, funny and poignant.

We met Sudi earlier in 2022 when he brought us his books How Catering Sucked the Life Right Out of Me--behind the scenes tales of the catering world on the left coast-- and Rainbow Relatives, useful stories and advice on talking to kids about LGBTQ family members.

Please spend this half-hour with us as an alternative to your usual, humdrum Christmas shows! 

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