Scottish Rugby referees, Hollie Davidson and Chelsea Gillespie join Chris and Caroline on this week's episode of the Official Scottish Rugby Podcast.

Hollie talks about her recent appointment to referee world champions South Africa this summer, when they take on Portugal in a summer Test.

It is another major milestone in Davidson’s career which saw her make history earlier this year, becoming the first female to be part of the officiating team in a Guinness Men’s Six Nations fixture, as an assistant referee in England’s win over Wales at Twickenham.

In 2022 she also became the first woman to referee a men’s Six Nations team when Italy played Portugal.

Chelsea talks about returning to refereeing after a 10-year hiatus, during a time which saw her contract meningitis and become a Mum.

Both talk about their love for refereeing and some of the challenges they face both on and off the pitch.