For this episode, I got to hang out with Holly Tate and have a delightful conversation about changing a toxic leadership culture, vulnerability, healthy growth, her own story and being a woman in ministry.   

Holly is the SVP of Growth for Leadr, a really cool tech company that is doing their part to make churches and other organizations better on the inside. I met her for the first time in-person at an event that Leadr hosted and she is such a smart and dynamic person I was like, I really want to have her on the podcast. If her voice sounds familiar, it’s because Holly was the host of the Vanderbloemen podcast for several years when was a part of that organization.  

If you work in ministry, or volunteer at your church, or you got burned out and left organized religion altogether, this is a really good conversation about restoring goodness and health to the spiritual communities we love.