Borgo Pio Podcast

Holy Neighbors


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This week, we marvel at the wonders of Rome and the peculiar magic of modern Vatican–Italian relations. How did two powers once locked in bitter conflict become such amiable neighbors? Over espresso (and maybe a little Chianti), Maggie and Bob explore the rituals, friendships, and charming absurdities that make the friendship between popes and presidents one of the most Roman stories of all.

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