We are back sharing another special episode in honor of our beloved executive director, Carl Hamad-Lipscombe.

In this conversation, Carl spoke to an expert on the social change ecosystem: Deepa Iyer. Deepa is an activist, facilitator, lawyer, strategist and the author Social Change Now: A Guide for Reflection. In this conversation, you’ll hear Carl reflect on his own roles in the social change ecosystem — a critical combination of talent, perspective and skill that are already sorely missed. Thank you all for listening to this special series of episodes in memory of Carl.