Hooks & Runs

Joe Morgan, a native of Bonham, Texas, a small town near the Oklahoma border, is generally regarded as baseball's greatest second basemen in the post-World War II era. Originally Colt-.45 then Astro, Houston traded him to Cincinnati after the 1971 season is perhaps Houston's most ill-fated (and bone-headed) trades. Morgan went on to win two Most Valuable Player Awards with the Big Red Machine.

Also this episode - three coaches fired already in the NCAA FBS season, the Astros are on life support, the Padres clinch, festivals are faring no better than the Astros

Episodes Mentioned this Week

• 133 - We Weren't Rained Out, We Were Rained In w/ Roger Metzger
• 144 - Bill Virdon's Baseball Life w/ David Jerome & Shirley Virdon
• 195 - Looking Back at Houston's 1963 All-Rookie Lineup
• 232 - It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over: The 1973 New York Mets w/ Len Ferman, The Sports Time TravelerTM
• 244 - Power Outage! The 1979 Houston Astros
• 258 - "I Was a Kid Too Back Then" w/ Rick Wise

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The fallout from the 1919 World Series gambling scandal rocked the baseball world when the affair broke into the public's view late in the 1920 season. Just when baseball emerged from that threat, two of baseball's biggest stars, Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker, found themselves immersed in betting scandal arising from a seemingly meaningless game late in the 1919 season. The scandal led to acrimony, finger-pointing and three major resignations. Ultimately, the two stars were cleared and they returned to baseball in 1927, but the reverberations were felt for years to come. Naturally, Babe Ruth figures in the story as well

Dan Taylor, the voice of the Fresno Grizzlies, wrote "Baseball at the Abyss: The Scandals of 1926, Babe Ruth, and the Unlikely Savior Who Rescued a Tarnished Game" (Rowman & Littlefield 2023) about the scandal and the stars put under the spotlight. Taylor joins us this week to talk about gambling in baseball, which has emerged the last two seasons as an on-going challenge for the sport.

Dan Taylor on Twitter (https://x.com/WritinGuy)

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Andrew "Rube" and William "Bill" Foster were half-brothers born in Calvert, Texas, 25 years apart. Rube (b. 1879) left home in the late 90s to pitch for barnstorming teams deep into the late teens. He established his name as a top pitcher in the circuit as well as a savvy businessman. In 1920, he organized the Negro National League, the first and leading organized Black baseball league. 

Bill (b. 1904) left the South in 1918 to look for work and play baseball and after catching on with the Memphis team in the NNL, eventually landed on his older brother's Chicago American Giants. He is regarded as the best left-handed pitcher in the Negro Leagues. He pitched the American Giants to titles in 1926 and 1927, then was the winning pitcher in the first East-West All-Star Game in 1933. 

Both brothers were inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame posthumously.

Rube Foster on Seamheads, SABR
Bill Foster on Seamheads, SABR
Robert Charles Cottrell, "The Best Pitcher in Baseball: The Life of Rube Foster, Negro League Giant (New York University Press, 2004).

Errata: Henry Mathewson had zero wins in his big league career, not one.

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Bill Bevens came within one out of throwing the first World Series no-hitter in Game 4.  Also, a look at the pennant and wild card races plus some 1988 Topps baseball cards.

Errata: The Giants were 14-14 in August, 9-15 in July. In the second half so far, Texas is 24-19, Seattle is 22-21 and Houston is 20-23. San Diego went 23-43 after the All-Star Break in 2021 and for some reason Craig thinks they collapse like this every year. San Diego was 43-20 in the second half in 2024. Pete Reiser won the NL batting title in 1941, not 1945. Craig was thinking of Mickey Mahler when he should have been thinking of Mike Mason. Wade Boggs played 5 seasons for the Yankees before going to Tampa; he also admitted to drinking 73 beers on a flight, not 57. Clint Hurdle turned down a football scholarship to the University of Miami, but he turned it down to sign with the Royals. 

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David Krell is a returning guest and the author of "Bo Belinsky: The Rise, Fall and Rebound of a Playboy Pitcher," (McFarland & Co., 2025) the first full-length biography of Bo Belinsky. 

David Krell's official website (https://www.davidkrell.com)
David Krell's Twitter (https://x.com/davidkrell)
McFarland Books (https://McFarlandBooks.com)

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Eddie Mathews played 17 seasons in the big leagues and is the only player to play for the Braves in Boston, Milwaukee and Atlanta. He hit 512 home runs in his career and was elected to the Hall of Fame in 1978. This week Hooks & Runs continues its series, Texans in the Hall, by looking back at Mathews' career.

Also this episode Shohei Ohtani's latest off-the-field skirmish; Mike Trout's decline, Guy Hecker's big day and Hooks & Runs' favorite release for the second quarter 2025.

Eddie Mathews at baseball-reference.com
Shohei Ohtani story (https://tinyurl.com/ohtanihooks)
Guy Hecker's big day (https://tinyurl.com/guyhecker)

Representative Sources:
Guy Curtright, "A Brave in Three Cities," February 19, 2001, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, page 6. 
Don Fleitz, "Eddie Mathews," https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/eddie-mathews/, last accessed August 14, 2025.
Joe Heiling, "Mathews Happy Over Chances With Astros," January 1, 1967, Houston Post, page 18.
Frank Hyland, "Aaron to Play? Check the Weather," Atlanta Journal-Constitution, April 6, 1974, page 13. 
Wayne Minshew, "Kuhn Edict Still Angers Mathews," Atlanta Journal-Constitution, April 1, 1974, page 26. 
Joe Reichler, "Spahn Pitches Distance in 7-5 Thiller," October 7, 1957, Janesville Weekly Gazette, page 12.
John Wilson, "Astros Acquire Eddie Mathews," January 1, 1967, Houston Chronicle, page 21.
John Wilson, "Astros Trade Ed Mathews to Detroit," August 18, 1967, Houston Chronicle.
Dick Young "Braves Cop, 7-5, in 10; Tie Series," New York Daily News, page 48.
Statistics, box scores and more at https://www.baseball-reference.com/.

This is Turnstile's song "Seein' Stars," from their 2025 album "Never Enough."

Errata: In 1999, there were 9 future Hall of Famers on the Hall of Fame ballot, not 4.

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Rick Wise pitched 18 seasons in the big league, beginning with is rookie year for the 1964 Philadelphia Phillies. He won 188 games in that span and achieved some notable milestones, including becoming the only pitcher in Major League history to pitch a no-hitter and hit 2 home runs in the same game. Wise was also the winning pitcher in Game 6 of the 1975 World Series - considered by many to be among the greatest World Series games ever played.

Rick joins Hooks & Runs this week to reflect on his long baseball career.

Rick Wise at baseball-reference.com (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/wiseri01.shtml)
Rick Wise bio at SABR.com (https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/rick-wise/)

Errata - Rick allowed runs at old Sportsman's Park in 1964, but he did not allow any earned runs. The first night game in MLB history was in Houston in 1963, not 1962. Bernie Carbo and Dwight Evans hit home runs in Game 3 of the '75 World Series, not Game 6.

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Colorado of all teams highlights the week with a wild come-from-behind win at home against Pittsburgh. Hooks & Runs' favorite teams made big splashes at the trade deadline. MLB's microbets investigation snares Cleveland All-Star pitcher Emmanuel Clase - lockers have been cleared out, so this looks serious.

Where are they now? Hooks & Runs follows up on the players suspended in last year's gambling scandal. The TV Dolls, Loose Helmet, Ozzy's funeral and "I've Got the Music in Me" closes.

Errata: It's Leo De Vries, not Luis. We're sure there are others.

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Bo Carter is the Executive Director for the National Collegiate Baseball Writers Association and an inductee into the College Sports Communicators Hall of Fame. He was media relations director for the Southwest Conference (SWC) and Big 12 Conference for a combined 22 years. His essay, "Southwest Conference Baseball HIstory," was appears in The National Pastime: Baseball in Texas and Beyond (Society of American Baseball Research (SABR), 2005). Carter has been a SABR member since 1993. 

Bo Carter on SABR - https://sabr.org/authors/bo-carter/
"Southwest Conference Baseball History" - https://sabr.org/journal/article/southwest-conference-baseball-history/
National Collegiate Baseball Writers Association - https://www.sportswriters.net/ncbwa/

Errata: On further review, Southwestern's Curt Walker was not the first former SWC player to reach the majors, though he was the first to enjoy a substantial MLB career. Maybe that's for another episode? 

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Topics this week: Tampa Bay Rays sale; A Shoeless Joe's Hall of Fame promotion; The All-Star Game; The USA vs. The World; Late Night TV is in trouble; BananaBall may entertain some, but it isn't baseball; Manfred wants a salary cap; MLB's tickets are overpriced for a reason; an Ozzy Osbourne post-mortum; making money while making music.

Errata:  A Houston business consortium was bidding to buy the St. Louis Cardinals in the early 1950's, not the St. Louis Browns. The National League, not the American League had the early 6-run lead in the 2025 All-Star game. 

Episodes Mentioned: Ep. 251, "Talking Talking Heads w/ Jonathan Gould."

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