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🎙️ Episode 011 – Hope, Hype, and Heating Engineers: Agentic AI Gets Real

In this episode of The Next Thing Now, Rob and Kev dive deep into the maturing world of agentic AI — and the quietly powerful new standard driving it: MCP.

We explore:

  • Why Canva’s new Claude-powered integration might be the first real MCP breakthrough
  • What MCP actually is (with a heating engineer analogy you won’t forget)
  • Why the hype cycle has moved on, but the real impact is just beginning
  • How OpenAI’s $3B Windsurf deal fell apart — and what Google’s surprise move means for the agentic ecosystem

Plus, a healthy dose of healthy cynicism on Apple’s AI intentions and why everyone’s talking “agentic” now.

Whether you're a product leader, a dev, or just trying to keep up, this is the episode to understand the infrastructure that might define the next decade of software.

đź§  No fluff. Just insight, laughs, and the odd Matrix reference.

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