In this episode author and Kriya minister Ellie Hadsall sits down to chat with Danielle abut what the Yugas are in Vedic Astrology, and how understanding these cycles brings hope for what we as a collectove are moving towards currently. Danielle and Ellie discuss the correlates between the western and eastern concepts of the ages (Yugas), as well as other aspects of mysticism, esotericism, religion and spirituality. This conversations dances its way through a number of compelling topics like the origin of fear based religious beliefs, what actually constitutes a 'spiritual science' and how it differs dramatically from belief based spirituality. The overarching message from Ellie is one of Hope. Hope to be found even within these seemingly dark and challenging times we find ourselves in. You can find Ellie at  Ellie Hadsall and connect with Danielle at  DNA Empowerment