In this captivating episode of Oro Rua, Horomona engages in a rich conversation with esteemed researcher, composer, and mātanga reo, Dr. Te Ahukaramū Charles Royal, hailing from Ngāti Whanaunga, Ngāti Raukawa, Ngāti Tamaterā, and Ngā Puhi. Delving into the depths of te ao pūoro, Te Ahukaramū shares his journey as a classically trained musician who has embraced the indigenous musical practices of the Māori culture, including the mesmerizing realms of te reo, mōteatea, haka, and tākaro. Join us as we uncover how this profound passion has led him to a profound affection for the intricacies of the whare tapere, a world of captivating complexity waiting to be explored.