HCCS fam, do we ever have a treat for you this week! Joe Dolan is a nationally celebrated architect, designer, and educator responsible for some of the nation's most beautiful spaces: from massive sports stadiums, to intimate spaces like Chicago's rum-centric cocktail haven, Sparrow, and the Alinea group's casual fine-dining hot spot, Roister. Ryan and Joe discuss the tremendous impact of design on the modern world, the reconciliation of money and creativity, the pros and cons of perfectionism, and the quintessential importance of storytelling in any creative medium. For creatives working in the world of design, or for anyone interested in taking their creative practice to the next level, this episode is essential listening.