Joining Graham this week is Steve Bays of Hot Hot Heat to discuss the band's 2005 album, Elevator.
Graham and Steve talk about the realities of touring, the impact of mental health on musicians, and the value of passion projects. Also, pad thai and California gas station wine.

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Hot Hot Heat “Goodnight Goodnight” (1:32)
Liars “Mr You’re On Fire Mr” (7:02)
Hot Hot Heat “Bandages” (12:42)
“Middle Of Nowhere” (16:20)
The Walkmen “The Rat” (49:19)
“You Owe Me An IOU” (54:42)

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