Oliver and Victoria unpack Peter Thiel’s haunting conversation with Jordan Peterson—tracing the decline of physical innovation, the rise of digital escapism, and our desperate search for meaning in a post-religious world.

From “Transcendence Surrogates” to “Pragmatic Transcendence,” this episode wrestles with the deepest question of our time: What are we building toward—if not just status and survival?

🔥 This episode explores:

Why post-1970s progress stalled in atoms but exploded in bits

The mimetic traps of politics, social media, and modern life

Secular frameworks as replacements for traditional transcendence

“The Innovation Sacrifice Gap” and why we fund convenience over vision

Is there a future for faith-informed ambition in a rational world?