Shake It Off with Mert & Lucas

Hour 2: Teens, Chicken, and the Crisis of Public Behavior — Plus Mark Gogolewski on Mental Health and Masculinity as Explored in How to Be OK.


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The hosts examine a Chick-fil-A in Kettering, Ohio, where a new teen chaperone policy requiring minors to be accompanied by adults has sparked debate over youth behavior, public safety, and business responsibility. The conversation expands into post-pandemic social dynamics, the erosion of adult supervision, and the growing role of businesses in managing public conduct. The episode wraps with Mark Gogolewski, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur and mental health advocate, whose new book How to Be OK (When You’re Supposed to Be OK But You’re Not) explores addiction, masculinity, and the emotional toll of success.

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Shake It Off with Mert & LucasBy Lucas A. Ferrara & Mert Roberts