Automate or Die Trying

“How Aby Rao Went from Identity Security to Governing Generative AI”


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Episode Summary:

In this episode of Automate or Die Trying, host Wil Ramos sits down with Aby Rao, Deputy CISO and cybersecurity leader with over two decades of experience across identity security, cloud and enterprise security, GRC, and AI risk management.

Aby shares how his background in identity and cloud security shaped his approach to responsible AI adoption. The conversation focuses on AI governance, model risk management, and the secure adoption of generative and agentic AI, including why enterprise-wide ownership and human-in-the-loop controls are critical as automation accelerates.

He also offers practical advice on translating AI risk into business language, aligning security with product and engineering teams, and building future-ready security programs that enable innovation without sacrificing trust.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Why identity remains central to AI security
  2. What effective AI governance looks like in practice
  3. Securing generative and agentic AI without slowing the business
  4. Communicating AI risk to executives and boards

Golden Nugget:

“You can’t secure what you don’t understand. Start with the technology, then build the guardrails.”

Connect with Aby Rao:

  1. LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/abyrao

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Automate or Die TryingBy Wil Ramos