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Check out these posts for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Steve Zalewski. Joining us is Allan Cockriel, group CISO, Shell.

In this episode:

• Striking a balance
• Will we see a talent exodus?
• Playing by the same rules
• This is an organizational responsibility

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