Vida shares the differences between living as an asylum-seeker and a refugee in Belgium. She also talks about becoming Bahai, the Green movement (Persian Spring), and how everything she experienced led to self-actualization. Nolan reveals that Maslow saw self-transcendence as the top of the pyramid, not self-actualization.   

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00:00 - Introduction 

00:42 - Life as refugee vs asylum seeker 

13:09 - Bahai religion & beliefs 

22:03 - The Green Movement (Persian Spring) & Revolution 

27:58 - Self-actualisation & self-transcendence

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