Carol the Coach will be interviewing Kristin Cary who is a CPSAS and is currently being trained by APSATS. She realizes that the church, therapists and family or friends can be well meaning but hurtful when it comes to partner trauma. She will talk about what churches can do to be safe places for women to talk about partner betrayal and she will talk about a program that she has developed in her church which has made a huge difference in her community.