Alan Johnson, former Cabinet Minister under Tony Blair and Gordon Brown talks about how the Government can get back on track, bemoans the u-turn on the winter fuel allowance and says the pensions triple lock is crazy. As the author of a Harold Wilson biography he discusses the lessons he can teach Keir Starmer and he explains why he never wanted to be Prime Minister 

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