After talking about how to make the perfect burger, and then analyzing HBO's series Lovecraft Country, Yia and David discuss why we are so polarized (starting at 18:50). They talk about how perspective leads to empathy, how we end up in bubbles that never challenge our thinking, only encourage it; and then ask how we can break out of living in a bubble.

The White on Rice podcast is hosted and produced by Yia Vang and David Crabb. For more information, please visit us at whiteonricepodcast.com.