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In a continuation from the first part of our chat with Prof. Marilyn Fleer, from Monash University, Melbourne, Australia, we move on to discuss the role of the adult in conceptual play worlds and introduce STEAM with older children, using stories and play problems to make abstract learning more concrete and fun.

If you’ve been inspired by Professor Marilyn Fleer's lovely podcasts with us you can find out more about the conceptual play worlds she discusses on her website https://www.monash.edu/conceptual-playworld