The Space Shuttle Challenger disaster and other failed missions led NASA to rethink how it fostered leadership and culture. Now, NSW-based Crazy Might Work is using an ultra-modern version of the same program, based on the current space program, to share those learnings with other organisations and leadership teams.

In this special episode recorded at the Australian Space Summit & Exhibition, Paul Hawkins, the company's chief combobulator, talks to host Adam Thorn about the firm's origins in Antarctica, whether leaders are born or made and how NASA became the Best Place to Work in federal government for the eleventh year in a row.