In this episode of Matters of Consequence, Michael Hanf speaks with Sönke Marahrens.

Sönke works at the intersection of security policy, defense, and foresight. His work focuses on hybrid threats, forms of conflict that operate below the threshold of war and often go unnoticed until their effects are already deeply felt.

The conversation explores what hybrid threats actually look like in practice. Disinformation, cyber pressure, legal manipulation, and small disruptions that gradually undermine trust and decision-making. Not as isolated events, but as patterns that exploit gray zones and existing cracks in society.

They talk about preparedness and resilience, not as abstract concepts, but as everyday leadership challenges. About responsibility in situations where no single moment feels decisive. And about what it means to stay attentive when disruption becomes normal rather than exceptional.

A conversation about risk, trust, and what it takes to respond before systems start to fracture.

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