You know the risks. The board knows the budget. So how do you bridge the gap? For most IT and security leaders, convincing executives to prioritize security is the toughest job they face.

In this episode, Max Clark sits down with Alejandro Ziegenhirt, Sr. Manager of InfoSec & DevOps at OfferUp, to unpack the real-world struggle of funding security. From cloud myths to phishing to why ROI arguments usually fall flat, Alejandro shares battle-tested ways to communicate risk in dollars and keep leadership listening.

Don’t wait for a breach to prove your point. Hit play and find out how to frame security in a way that executives can’t ignore.