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In most jobs there's often a clear indicator if you're doing a good job. In security, specifically security leadership, it's not so easy to tell. "Nothing happening" is not an effective measurement. So how should security performance be graded?

Check out this post for the basis for our conversation on this week's episode which features me, David Spark (@dspark), producer of CISO Series, co-host Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn, and our guest is Deneen DeFiore (@deneendefiore), CISO, United Airlines.

Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Tessian

In this episode:

• How should security performance be graded?
• Is "keeping it simple" the best option?
• What's the best measurement option?