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Prof Deborah Gordon is a biologist at Stanford University and a world expert in the function and survival of ant colonies. Her research uses ant colonies to investigate and design other systems that also operate without central control such as the internet, the immune system, and the brain. 

She is also concerned with how ants are adapting their behaviour in the Anthropocene and our changing climate.  

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