Facing Retirement: "But isn't it interesting that once you retire, as we call it, right, and you leave that organization...you're faced with that "what am I gonna do now?" Well, what do I wanna do? Well, you haven't thought about it because remember, those thirty years, they were spent all about the organization, all about the next career move, the promotion, the stock options, the 401k." - Eric Pennington, Spirit of EQ

We look into the complex and often misunderstood concept of retirement with the guidance of expert guest, Eric Pennington. As the managing partner of Spirit of EQ and author of "The Well-being Guide," Eric brings a unique perspective on the emotional intelligence required to face retirement's challenges and opportunities.

Together, we explore the fear and misconceptions surrounding retirement, the pressure from societal norms and marketing, and the essential resources needed for a fulfilling post-career life.

Eric emphasizes the importance of self-discovery, building emotional intelligence, and preparing mentally and physically for this new chapter.

Whether you're nearing retirement age or just starting to consider your future, this episode offers valuable insights on redefining retirement and creating a meaningful and purposeful life beyond traditional career paths. We uncover the myths of retirement and learn how to navigate the emotional journey toward this next adventure.

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Here are three key takeaways from our conversation:

• Rewire Your Mindset: Your brain is capable of being rewired, even as you approach retirement. Building emotional intelligence is crucial to facing retirement without fear. Embrace the idea of lifelong growth and redefine what retirement means to you.
• Build Your Resources: Whether it’s financial savings, health, or emotional support, start building your resources now. Remember, this isn't just about money. Focus on mental, physical, and emotional well-being to prepare for a fulfilling journey ahead.
• Curiosity and Purpose: Never stop asking questions about your purpose and emotional experiences. Cultivate curiosity and explore what genuinely matters to you, so that when the time comes, you know what your next step will be.

Episode Highlights

00:00 Developing Emotional Intelligence with Data

06:00 "Evolved Minds, Ancient Instincts"

07:51 Marketing and the "Not Enough" Culture

12:49 Challenging Age-Related Cultural Norms

14:17 "Age is Just a Number"

18:22 Retirement Planning and Adaptation

22:39 Defining Life's Next Journey

27:18 "Defining Life's Purpose"

28:09 "Post-Retirement Purpose Dilemma"

31:19 Exploring Self-Knowledge and Growth

36:55 Reflecting on Career Preferences

40:02 Weekend Retreat for Self-Discovery

42:50 "Empowerment Beyond Retirement Age"

46:00 "The Power of Curiosity"

48:37 Timely Adaptation Challenges

53:26 "Building Your Resource Pillars"

57:40 Insights on Thinking Fast and Slow

59:05 "Lisa Feldman Barrett Books"

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