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AI adoption is accelerating faster than most organisations can control and the result is growing chaos.
In this episode of IoT and AI Leaders, Nick Earle is joined by Santosh Kaveti, CEO of ProArch, and Jim Spignardo, Director of Cloud Strategy and AI Enablement, to explore why ‘AI-first’ thinking without foundational discipline is creating serious operational, security, and governance risks.
Rather than chasing hype, ProArch argues for a foundation-first approach: slow down, define processes, establish governance, and build trust before embedding AI into workflows, especially as IoT expands the data surface dramatically.
The conversation covers:
Episode Highlights
00:02:15: Introduction to ProArch
00:04:30: Realising the potential of AI
00:06:45: What are the 'unknown unknowns' of AI?
00:12:20: The "Donald Rumsfeld era" of AI
00:18:00: ERP/MRP analogy
00:22:15: Balancing visibility and control with innovation
00:28:45: The "trust layer" or "truth layer"
00:35:30: Real-world power plant example
00:42:15: Ontology mapping
00:48:30: Three board-level risks identified
00:52:00: Final takeaways
By Nick Earle, Executive Chairman, Eseye4.8
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AI adoption is accelerating faster than most organisations can control and the result is growing chaos.
In this episode of IoT and AI Leaders, Nick Earle is joined by Santosh Kaveti, CEO of ProArch, and Jim Spignardo, Director of Cloud Strategy and AI Enablement, to explore why ‘AI-first’ thinking without foundational discipline is creating serious operational, security, and governance risks.
Rather than chasing hype, ProArch argues for a foundation-first approach: slow down, define processes, establish governance, and build trust before embedding AI into workflows, especially as IoT expands the data surface dramatically.
The conversation covers:
Episode Highlights
00:02:15: Introduction to ProArch
00:04:30: Realising the potential of AI
00:06:45: What are the 'unknown unknowns' of AI?
00:12:20: The "Donald Rumsfeld era" of AI
00:18:00: ERP/MRP analogy
00:22:15: Balancing visibility and control with innovation
00:28:45: The "trust layer" or "truth layer"
00:35:30: Real-world power plant example
00:42:15: Ontology mapping
00:48:30: Three board-level risks identified
00:52:00: Final takeaways

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