Unchained

How Ethereum’s Dencun Upgrade Could Lead to the Rise of Millions of Layer 3s - Ep. 620


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Ethereum’s long-awaited Dencun upgrade finally went live this week, and many L2s immediately saw their transaction fees fall dramatically, as was the intention. Among them was the Coinbase-incubated Base, which was created by Jesse Pollak. Pollak joined Unchained to discuss the impact Dencun was having on Base; how he thinks Layer 1s and Layer 2s will start to differ from one another and eventually spawn a multitude of specialized Layer 3s; his response to criticisms of the increasing use of Layer 2s, what he’s focusing on now, and why he supports using the word “onchain” over “crypto” or “web3.” 

Show highlights:

  • The problem that Dencun is trying to solve
  • The benefits of blobs and blobspace
  • How Dencun has already reduced Base’s fees, but also increased its transactions
  • How Jesse thinks Layer 1s and Layer 2s will start to become differentiated from each other
  • The rise of Layer 3s
  • How Jesse addresses criticisms of fragmentation and centralization arising from the increasing use of Layer 2s
  • Why Jesse is particularly excited about two features of the Dencun upgrade—transient storage and increased composability between L1s and L2s
  • What Jesse and the Base team are focusing on now
  • Why Jesse thinks that “onchain” is a better word to describe the industry than “crypto” or “blockchain” or “web3” 
  • Thank you to our sponsors!
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    • Guest
      Jesse Pollak, creator of Base at Coinbase

      Previous appearances:

      • The Chopping Block: All About That Base With Jesse Pollak 
      Links

      Recent coverage on Unchained of the Dencun Upgrade and Base: 

      • Dencun Day One: Ethereum Layer 2 Networks See Drastic Drop in Transaction Fees
      • Ethereum Completes Milestone Dencun Upgrade, Which Should Substantially Reduce Fees
      • How Much Will the Dencun Upgrade Really Reduce Ethereum Layer 2 Fees By?
      • Why Base’s Creator Thinks Social Apps Will Be a ‘Huge Part’ of the Layer 2 Blockchain’s Success
      • CoinDesk:

        • Debating Dencun: Will Ethereum's Big Update Help or Harm the Network?


        Jesse’s tweets on Dencun

        • October 2022 
        • January 2024
        • March 13, 2024 


          Blobs / Proto-danksharding

          • EIP-4844 proposal
          • Blobs unleashed: Ethereum’s Dencun upgrade activates on mainnet 
          • Base says it will support EIP-4844 from 'day 1' following Dencun upgrade 
          • Ethereum stans are putting the Bee Movie on blobs for as little as $5

          • Superchain

            • Decentralizing Base with the OP Stack and Optimism 
            • Base’s Commitment to Decentralization with the Superchain 

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              UnchainedBy Laura Shin