Dave Schmelzer and Curtis Gruenler (an English professor and medievalist) have been friends since college and they talk about the ins and outs of how friendships themselves can empower the kind of growth in God that we talk about on The Pocket Contemplative.

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Curtis is launching a Substack on friendship (from a medievalist's perspective)

Curtis and Dave allude in passing to:

Spiritual Friendship by the medieval monk Aelred of Rievaulx

Rene Girard and his Shakespeare book Theater of Envy