It may seem counterproductive, but working yourself out of a job as a leader can be one of the most effective strategies for growth and value. Why should leaders, seek to make their positions obsolete? How can you create a business, nonprofit, or good work that outlives you?

Join us today on the Lasting Change Podcast, where we're talking with Manuel Perez De La Mesa, former CEO of Pool Corporation, a publicly traded, multi-billion dollar business. Together, we're talking about how individuals in any position can learn how to work with more clarity and solve problems for the people they serve.

Learn more about how you can get involved today at onecollective.org/podcasts