In this episode with Kevin, I really enjoyed it because he is a podcast host. He's very successful and he's got a great setup and a great microphone. So it was really fun talking to him and really, you know, a good episode overall. And I actually learned a lot from him afterwards about, you know, making my podcast better, which was great. So absolutely loved talking with Kevin. Him and I talked a lot about genius zone and being hyper-conscious and what that means for you to, to really be self-aware and what it looks like to be hyper conscious about, you know, a situation about a relationship, how that ties into leadership, how that ties into self-improvement. And then specifically we also talked about co-founder roles how the genius zone, how being hyper conscious, all of that ties into co-founder relationships especially between like a visionary and an integrator CEO and COO. Really enjoyed this episode and really loved talking to Kevin specifically about, you know, his experience with the Genius Zone and also with his co-founder.