(If you want to skip the intro, my conversation with Mike starts around the 10 minute mark.)

I could have titled this something basic like, “Our Relationship Story,” but I decided to go with the more salacious title. Marketing 101, you know.

But it’s true. I did not want to date him because I thought he was way too extreme. But life/God had other plans. So today we are telling our story.

Context for those who follow on instagram:

We recorded this 2 months ago. Right before we found out we were pregnant (like, days before). And I haven’t edited it until now because I was very sick for a while. We’ve since, and very recently, learned that we are (almost definitely) experiencing a miscarriage, which I’ve shared on instagram.

It’s devastating and we are still in some limbo waiting for the follow up ultrasound, but getting to work on my outstanding projects has been a coping mechanism and distraction.

The only reason I’m sharing that sad news right now, and in the intro to this episode, is because for the people who already know from instagram, I felt like I should give context for what you are going to hear in this episode, and when it was recorded.

On second thought, I probably didn’t need to do that. I probably just needed to share that I recorded this 2 months ago. Boom. Done. But I already recorded the intro. Then, during the intro I witnessed some kind of bird nest drama outside my window, and the intro became longer and more insane than it needed to be.

In this episode I reference:

My first interview with Mike where he shares his testimony:

Enjoy!

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