How Long Gone

Chris Wallace is an avid traveler, writer, photographer, and old friend of CB's, and has a new quarterly out now. We chat with him on his way to Mexico about reflexively pinching and zooming a physical photograph, attending the W Youth Magazine dinner at Thai Diner, CB's report from sitting courtside at the Knicks game, Chris’ late father “coming out” and developing a relationship with him afterward, the two Chrises comparing how many days a year they’re away and what such travel junkies are “running away” from, not having an address or health care and what city he plans to partially call home next year, working at Les Deux Café in the mid-to-late ’90s, how to find validation for the things one does, celebrity media training and the future of managing your own platform, ego psychosis, and the SEO difficulty of his name.

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One-on-one pod today: Chris is in New York, and Jason is in Austin, TX. We chat about the discovery of undershirts, Sacha Baron Cohen's unwanted extreme press push, Jason sitting next to Joe Rogan at the Texas-Ole Miss game, Cybertaxis taking over Austin, drinking all your favorite alcohols in one night, Jason possibly having grown an inch, the benefits of Styrofoam, JAY-Z ticket sales, and Chris preparing to see a Dashboard Confessional matinee followed by courtside seats at the Knicks game.

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Kings of Leon are a band from Tennessee. Their new album, O My Beloved, is out soon. We chat with Jared from his home about canned pumpkin, Jason seeking advice on how to approach the college football game he's attending in Texas this weekend, Chris going to buzzy new restaurant Straker's, how to emotionally hedge one's bets with sports, light beer, his unique sleeping situation on hotel floors as a child, having to cancel a show because of bird poop, how opening for U2 taught them to make more anthemic tunes, his mom tailoring his skinny jeans, his job in the band besides playing in it, Kacey Musgraves' disco ball testicles, what "chocolate gravy" is, and the Southern tradition of canning vegetables.

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Twisted Teens are a band from New Orleans. Their new record, The Holy Cross Tigers, is out soon on Sub Pop. We chat with Caspian from his home about the Victoria’s Secret show, bringing a Bible to court, living off-grid in a yurt, Home Depot scams, riding freight trains and trimming flower, his extensive knowledge of California native plants, why everyone he knew left for New Orleans or Minnesota, who should play the Unabomber in the inevitable biopic, how he started writing pop songs once he realized how hard it was, the Tao of Rick Rubin, how he got institutionalized, and how kratom and beer hops ruin your libido.

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One-on-one pod today: Chris is in Atlanta, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about Chris attending his twin nieces’ fútbol match, Baby Gronk, Bella Hadid working out in the Alo sauna, Jake Shane being ready to learn about Madonna, how to sneak into the W Youth Magazine party at the Saddle Ranch in Hollywood, power-washing videos between sets at the gym, the Elizabeth Holmes doc You Can See Everything opening to much fanfare, HBO’s Girls returning for a limited series, Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley linking up, Chris possibly having the best lemon tart of his life, and Jason heading to the Charli show tonight.

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Sam Hine, formerly at GQ and now the senior men’s style editor at New York Magazine, returns to chat with us from his office about heather gray sweatpants, a pill popper on Jason's flight home from Mexico, the power of Jeremy Allen White's new haircut, a recent meal at New York restaurant Ha's Đặc Biệt, his recent cover story featuring a bathhouse full of it-men, photographer Ryan McGinley's sleep schedule, sharing a suitcase with your spouse, the Timeshifter app for our world travelers, his upcoming wedding plans, AI vows, the F&B program at his new offices, a bean sandwich, and Matthew Schneier giving Borgo the top spot on his list of New York's best restaurants.

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Quil Lemons is a Philadelphia-based photographer, currently in New York. His new book, Quiladelphia, is out soon from IDEA Books. We chat with him from his home in New York about more Shane Gillis monologue discourse, digital creator Druski set to host SNL himself, Hillary Clinton's new podcast, Selma Blair arrested for biting people, blicky talk and diamond testers, the globalization of regional Black culture, Soulja Boy as a sex symbol and a presidential candidate, Stone Mountain, Georgia, seventh-grade sex ed, rapper Birdman's kisses, his clockability, if Bill Gates would have let Black people have the internet knowing what he knows now, Quen Blackwell being the new Oprah, casting models off OnlyFans, The Boondocks' Gangstalicious and Thugnificent, sex education and its relation to r*pe culture, meeting singer JoJo while working at Walgreens, working with his husband, who's a stylist, and how he got his name.

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One-on-one pod today: Chris is in Charleston, SC, and Jason is in Mexico City. We chat about TJ's taco tours, absorbing your partner's tastes and behaviors, the dark evidence of a Hershey's Kiss wrapper, a blackened grouper Caesar salad, Mexicans shifting away from the tortilla chip and toward the potato, Dua Lipa eating an American-style hot dog, Kelly Clarkson's Twitter attack on a puzzle store in Brooklyn, Shane Gillis bombing his SNL monologue, but we dissect his bit about saying hi to people on a hike, and a recent New Yorker piece about comedy and podcasting that features us a bit.

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Rickie De Sole is the Editor of Air Mail's Dress Code, formerly at Vogue, Prada, and more. She just got back home to L.A. from Milan and Paris to chat with us about Jason hitting the EsDeeKid show the night before, third-party In-N-Out delivery, what color the Rimowa is and traveling with jewelry, an influx of Londoners in Milan, competitive sailing, stealing phones at the Brentwood Country Mart, Chris not being able to find a pair of shoes for his wife anywhere, using alcohol to sell clothes, legendary Prada sample sales, a Dries Van Noten necklace-belt, and the benefits of commercially viable products.

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Kurt Vile is a musician from Philadelphia. His great new record, Philadelphia’s been good to me, is out now. He returns to the pod from his home in Philadelphia to chat with us about Chris hitting Keith McNally’s son’s restaurant called Faux, ice cream, playing banjo at the punk club, Paul Revere’s Greek-style pizza, crying a bit after watching Beach House open for the Strokes, quantized drums and staying “off grid,” Bob Dylan being an alien, his favorite songs of the year so far, his thoughts on phone-free concerts, hangin’ out in the garage, guys only crying while watching TV, the vocal mix on “Wonderwall” being really loud, and having something really impressive planned for the “Pretty Pimpin” deluxe release.

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