In this episode with Andrew, we talk about no code and low code tools and which ones to use in your startup. Especially, you know, obviously on the technical side when you're trying to build an application, a web app, anything like that. We talked about bubble, how that's probably the best tool that we both agreed on as being really good for most founders that need just a small amount of coding or just the beginning stages of their technical startup or the beginnings of an application. And then we also talked about why it's still important to bring on an expert at some point in the process. You can't really get by on a low code or no code tool forever. You do need to bring in an expert at some point just because those tools aren't really meant to go at scale to handle a ton of traffic, a ton of you know, bandwidth and a ton of complexity. But it is a perfect solution for the basics and really just the building blocks, the fundamentals to really get things started. So, enjoy the episode. We talk a lot about low code, no code tools and how they could be helpful for you.