Why is maths one of the few subjects people feel completely comfortable saying they hated at school?

In this episode of The Primary Maths Podcast, Jon is joined by Emma Lockhart, Head of Maths at Mill Hill School, to explore what really sits behind that narrative and why it disproportionately affects girls.

Together, they unpack how maths so quickly becomes framed as something you are either “good at” or “bad at”, and how confidence, belonging and belief often matter just as much as content knowledge or exam technique. The conversation looks at what happens to pupils who are capable but quietly opt out, how classroom language and expectations shape mathematical identity, and why maths anxiety is often rooted in culture rather than ability.

Although this is the Primary Maths Podcast, the discussion moves into the secondary classroom and beyond, offering insights that are just as relevant for Key Stage 2 teachers, maths leads and school leaders as they are for those working at GCSE level.

In this episode, we explore:

• Why maths attracts such strong negative identities compared to other subjects
• The idea of the “quiet opt-out” and how capable pupils disengage without being noticed
• Gender, confidence and why girls are more likely to internalise “I’m just not a maths person”
• How right-and-wrong classroom cultures can undermine belonging
• What primary teachers can take from secondary insights to protect confidence earlier
• Practical reflections on language, expectations and mathematical identity

This is a thoughtful, reflective conversation about maths as a social experience, not just an academic one.

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Get in touch with Emma Lockhart: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-lockhart-74755431b/