In this episode you can hear Johanna Rothman and Andrei talk about:

How development was done in the 80's and included things like continuous delivery, bits of agile and testing. Johanna speaks about why it is important to deliver periodically, how to structure "stand-up" meetings in a way that makes sense and how mistreatment seems to trickle down the command chain. You can read the show notes on https://techieleadership.com/show8