How Not To Be Held Hostage By Hallmark: 1. Leave Blank Spaces 2. Restrain 3. Feel Empty 4. Leave Room for Real 5. Wait  Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! Click here to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _______ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. Click here to join over 1 million people taking charge of their mental health through the online counseling offered by our sponsor BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month. Click here to visit Nutrafol and use the promo code ORDINARY to save $15 off your first subscription. Plus, FREE shipping on every order. Click here to visit Olive & June for 20% off your first Mani System. Salon-perfect nails from home is now a dream come true with Olive & June!

206. How Not To Be Held Hostage By Hallmark

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We felt a pang as we hit record today. This is the second to final episode of 6 years of our conversations. But because conversation with a friend always does good work–we love the place where we landed. We pretty much landed this episode in heaven, didn’t we? In our second-last episode we reminisce about our six-year journey, the impact these conversations have had on us and our embrace of ordinary life. YOUR participation in the finale is requested. Click here to join the last conversation!We look to the future and what's next for each of us. We reflect on the bittersweet nature of endings, and the hope of an eternal narrative.We look to YOUR future and what's next for each of our listeners.
 Thank you for the amazing feedback to our episode of Lisa-Jo reading from her new book. And we loved meeting so many of you at the Nooks Book Reading event. Thank you for coming out! You all are our favorites! You can see a little recap of the evening here.  Thank you for reading with us.  Get your print copy here to keep reading Lisa-Jo's new book. Get your audio book copy here to hear the languages and accents in Lisa-Jo's own voice. Podcast links: We are now ad-free! You can help support our show with a one-time donation here. Thank you. Get Christie's new book here (or wherever books are sold) Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast!

266. The Second Last One

How's that for a title? But, friends, it's absolutely true. No spoilers here, but please don't miss the last ten minutes of this episode. Today we're also delighted to bring you along on a face-to-face, Lisa-Jo and Christie, book celebration day. a day of freedom (instead of fear) is possible because God heals the pasthow to ask friends for the support and encouragement we needthe power of a praying friendour podcast has felt like a wonderful dinner party among friends, but even great dinner parties can't last foreverevery end is a new beginningwe look forward together to the never-ending heavenly feast
 We want YOUR questions/comments -- join the conversation here!  Get your print copy here to keep reading Lisa-Jo's new book. Get your audio book copy here to hear the languages and accents in Lisa-Jo's own voice. Podcast links: You're invited! Lisa-Jo will be reading from her brand-new book at the best new bookstore in Lancaster, PA. Join Christie to cheer her on! We are now ad-free! You can help support our show with a one-time donation here. Thank you. Get Christie's new book here (or wherever books are sold) Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast!

265. This One is a Must-Listen

Today we're delighted to bring you a special audio excerpt from Lisa-Jo's new book, It Wasn't Roaring, It Was Weeping that went on sale this week. Step into the South African outback via a storm that started brewing in Maryland. From Lisa-Jo: I grew up in a family obsessed with stories. My mom used to take me out of school to see “important movies.” Her bookshelves overflowed. And my brothers grew up to make movies for a living. All that to say, friend, I hope you binge this book. I hope it reads like a movie. This story that stretches from South African’s outback to Washington, D.C. and traces the overlapping terrible, hopeful histories of my father and me.  I hope you can’t put it down. And then I hope you can’t help but tell other people about it. I’d be so grateful if you did. Get your print copy here to keep reading. Get your audio book copy here to keep listening. Excerpted with permission of Penguin Random House Audio from It Wasn't Roaring, It Was Weeping: Interpreting the Language of Our Fathers Without Repeating Their Stories by Lisa-Jo Baker; Read by Lisa-Jo Baker © 2024, Lisa-Jo Baker, ℗ Penguin Random House, LLC. Podcast links: You're invited! Lisa-Jo will be reading from her brand-new book at the best new bookstore in Lancaster, PA. Join Christie to cheer her on! We are now ad-free! You can help support our show with a one-time donation here or a recurring gift right here. Thank you. We are excited about becoming fully listener supported. Get Christie's new book here (or wherever books are sold) Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast!

264. It Wasn't Roaring, It Was Weeping

This was a breakthrough kind of episode. A little bit like 6 years of therapy condensed into half an hour. We hope it offers you as much of an "Aha" moment as it did for us! In this week's conversation:What if your past isn't your past?What if you could go back to the worst bits in your story and re-write them?What if your pain isn't fossilized? What if your present can set you free from your past?Click here for BOGO Offer of Lisa-Jo's new book that expires May 2 at midnight EST.
 Podcast links: You're invited! Lisa-Jo will be reading from her brand-new book at the best new bookstore in Lancaster, PA. Join Christie to cheer her on! We are now ad-free! You can help support our show with a one-time donation here or a recurring gift right here. Thank you. We are excited about becoming fully listener supported. START listening to the audio book or reading the ebook for It Wasn't Roaring, It Was Weeping here Get Christie's new book here (or wherever books are sold) Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast!

263. How You CAN Time Travel to Change Your Past

We're not sure why it took us so long to figure this out (and understand how much it matters!), but of course this podcast is like a weekly memoir of ordinary life. Here's what that means for you ... In this week's conversation:Christie and Lisa-Jo explore an epiphany: they've been recording a podcast memoir all these years!Memoir-writing nudges us to reflect on the distant pastpodcasting nudges Lisa-Jo and Christie to reflect on the recent pastLisa-Jo explains the practice she is now using to reflect on the day just pastWhat happens when we pause to notice and reflect? The answer is so good, Christie wonders if it's really too good to be trueLisa-Jo shares a special invitation for local listeners
 Podcast links: You're invited! Lisa-Jo will be reading from her brand-new book at the best new bookstore in Lancaster, PA. Join Christie to cheer her on! We are now ad-free! You can help support our show with a one-time donation here or a recurring gift right here. Thank you. We are excited about becoming fully listener supported. START listening to the audio book or reading the ebook for It Wasn't Roaring, It Was Weeping here Get Christie's new book here (or wherever books are sold) Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast!

206. How Not To Be Held Hostage By Hallmark

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