Author and pastor Dan Kimball sits down with Mark and Rex to discuss his new book, How (Not) to Read the Bible: Making Sense of the Anti-women, Anti-science, Pro-violence, Pro-slavery and Other Crazy-Sounding Parts of Scripture.

TRANSCRIPT

0:01

Welcome to Jessup think I'm your host Mark Moore, and your co host, Rex Gurney. And Rex on the show today. I'm so excited because I have actually one of my personally favorite authors and pastors in the northern California region, Dan Kimball, he's at vintage Faith Church in Santa Cruz. And he's also the author of an upcoming book called how not to read the Bible, making sense of the anti women, anti science, pro slavery, pro violence and other crazy sounding parts of Scripture. And there's a

0:34

connection with him to be he's he's spoken in Chapel here a number of times and has a long, long history with the school. So he has a lot of good things to say.

0:44

Yeah, he does. It's a fascinating conversation. And it's a really important conversation for right now. Because Because Miss reading the Bible can actually lead people away from Jesus. And in the purpose of Scripture is to point people to Jesus. And so we hope you enjoyed this episode. There's a lot to chew on and a lot to think about.

1:11

Well, Dan, are really excited to have you on the show. And we know that you actually have a little bit of a history with William Jessup University, or at least you've been, you've been here before and spoken at Chapel.

1:27

Yes, yeah. I've been there to chapel. I've met with john Jackson, I think a couple times and with Bryce Jessup several times as well. So William Jessup used to be in San Jose. And when it was there, when it was called San Jose Christian College, then it became William Jessup, our church used to get a lot of interns from William Jessup. And that was like, amazingly wonderful. And we were sad, actually, when you guys moved to Sacramento, but then glad that you could expand and have more property, and all of that, but yeah, I feel wonderfully at home at William Jessup, and it's always so thankful for doing there in Sacramento and all the students that come from all over the place. We still

2:08

have a presence, I think in San Jose, but it's it's not the same sort of thing. Yeah. Are in Marin Rocklin area.

2:18

No, yeah. And Bryce Jessup. I have an 11 page, handwritten letter from Bryce Jessup, because when I first entered into ministry, at Santa Cruz Bible Church, I was very interested in I didn't grow up a Christian. And then when I was entering into ministry, he spoke at Santa Cruz Bible. And I was wondering, like, you know, I really liked his message. And he was older at the time and wondered, you know, what sustains someone that is going into ministry, and he wrote me an 11 page, handwritten letter back, which I still have, because

2:50

it sounds like rice, it really does. Sounds like he's that kind of guy. Yeah,

2:54

yeah. Well, I've great Yeah, he was such a encouraging person and loved when I was over there to be able to meet up meet up with them.

3:02

Oh, that's great. That's really great. We'll have to take a peek at that 11 page letter sometime. I wish that has wisdom for us all. And yeah, it was great. It really was. And we're excited to have you on the show with this connection, but also to talk about your new book, which is coming out in December from Zondervan, how not to read the Bible. And I love this subtitle, making sense of the anti women, anti science, pro violence, pro slavery, and other crazy sounding parts of Scripture. Yeah. And if the if the subtitle alone doesn't make people pick up the book, I don't know what would because I think that that draws us into, into an area of, I think, the Christian faith that we often don't look at, and that is maybe how different aspects of the Bible are read. Or maybe misread or misrepresented, and how that can have an extreme effect on someone's face