Carlo is joined by Christopher Hale, the "Letters from Leo" author and reporter who helped break January's bitter meeting between Pentagon officials and the Vatican's U.S. ambassador. This episode reveals why the first American pope is refusing to visit the states for America's 250th anniversary, JD Vance mansplaining faith to the Pope, Trump's odd Jesus memes, Giorgia Meloni's uncharacteristic stand against Trump, the MAGA Catholic outlook and Leo's next moves. In what could be one of the most prominent contentions of modern American Catholicism, Christopher Hale saw it coming.

Letters From Leo: https://www.thelettersfromleo.com/

AvignonGate: https://avignongate.com/

00:00:00 Intro

00:01:07 Trump Attacks Pope Leo

00:02:00 Leo: "I Am Not Afraid"

00:06:53 Inside The Pentagon Meeting

00:11:05 Leo Skips 250th Anniversary

00:13:19 The 14th Century Weapon

00:18:46 Vance Warns Pope Leo

00:21:31 MAGA Catholics Under Pressure

00:25:00 Last Institution Against Trump

00:31:59 Hale Responds to Criticism

00:40:06 Leo's July 4th Message

00:42:17 Pope Leo On Artificial Intelligence

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