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In this conversation, we explore the intersection of musical theater, identity, and empathy through the lens of Gordon Leary's work. Gordon shares insights about writing characters that resonate on a human level, the collaborative process of creating musicals, and how personal experiences inform their storytelling. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding diverse human experiences and encourages audiences to engage more deeply with the narratives presented in theater. We also delve into the role of pop culture in shaping contemporary themes and the future of musical theater as a reflective art form.

• Gordon Leary discusses their journey as a musical theater writer 
• Exploration of empathy vs. sympathy in storytelling 
• The role of collaboration in the creative process 
• Reflection on the influence of pop culture in narratives 
• The importance of presenting complex characters vs. caricatures 
• Insights into the future of theater and evolving narratives 
• The challenge of self-definition in an artistic context 
• How personal experiences shape creative output