OptimizeYou Podcast

How Struggle Can Serve You


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Sarah Hayes X Steph Saffer

In this episode we discuss doing vs. being and the struggles we all encounter as we strive to "be." We can do hard things. Struggle can serve us. Not only can we learn through struggle but we can learn vicariously from someone else's struggles. There is no road map and we are all learning as we navigate the twists and turns in life. We hope you enjoy today's episode.

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OptimizeYou PodcastBy Steph Saffer & Sarah Hayes

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