Automate or Die Trying

“How Terry O’Daniel Went from Engineering to Redefining DevSecOps and Building Trust Across Tech Giants”


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Episode Summary:

In this episode of Automate or Die Trying, host Wil Ramos sits down with Terry O’Daniel, CISO, advisor, and investor with experience at Amplitude, Instacart, Netflix, Salesforce, and Yahoo!.

The conversation explores Terry’s journey from hands-on engineering to executive security leadership, emphasizing how security can enable business rather than act as a blocker. Terry shares how automation and embedding security directly into development pipelines have transformed the way teams operate, allowing them to focus on meaningful outcomes instead of repetitive tasks.

They dive into DevSecOps, continuous threat exposure management (CTEM), and the evolution of enterprise security practices. Terry explains why traditional compliance-driven approaches are insufficient for modern software delivery and how organizations can prioritize threats, reduce noise, and adopt continuous, operationalized security practices.

The discussion also covers the role of AI in security, from simulating attack scenarios to intelligent vulnerability prioritization, and how these innovations are helping companies maintain resilience while scaling operations.

Finally, Terry reframes security as a driver of customer trust and business growth, showing how strong security practices can accelerate adoption, meet enterprise expectations, and become a competitive advantage.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Security as a business enabler, not a blocker
  2. Automating repetitive tasks to focus on high-impact work
  3. Embedding security early in development pipelines
  4. Continuous Threat Exposure Management (CTEM) in practice
  5. Using AI for threat simulation and vulnerability prioritization
  6. Prioritization strategies for large volumes of security alerts
  7. Building customer trust through security excellence

Connect with Terry O’Daniel:

  1. LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/terryodaniel
  2. Website: terryodaniel.com

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Automate or Die TryingBy Wil Ramos