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John Fugelsang is a political commentator and author of Separation of Church and Hate: A Sane Person’s Guide to Taking Back the Bible from Fundamentalists, Fascists, and Flock-Fleecing Frauds. He joins Current Affairs editor-in-chief Nathan J. Robinson to discuss how right-wing Christian nationalism has twisted the teachings of Jesus into a tool of hate and domination.

0:00-6:37 Putting Jesus Back in Christianity

6:37-11:55 Debating the Right

11:55-15:00 John's Religious Background

15:00-18:25 Trump & Erika Kirk on Forgiveness

18:25-22:12 What the Right Really Worships

22:12-34:30 Allie Beth Stuckey & "Toxic Empathy"

34:30-41:35 Why Nonbelievers Should Care

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