They say as the family goes, so goes the nation, and although that saying is true, statistics show us that as the father goes, so goes the family. With this in mind you would think many churches would prioritize strategically targeting and reaching out to men in their communities. However, many men feel completely alienated from church and would rather find their support from the godless manosphere or red pill movement. So why is the church failing men so badly? On this episode of forge and Anvil we will venture to guess.