CHUD had the opportunity to join John The Fed on his podcast How The Hell Did We Wind Up Here? In doing so they had a great conversation about the nuclear family, both the building and decline, in an attempt to answer the titular question. Special thanks to Negativland, OTE and Albert Marcoeur for musical programming.

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and listen to his podcast at https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/howthehelldidwewinduphere