In this episode of the Mandatory Fun podcast, Blake speaks formerAir Force Chief of Staff General Merrill A. McPeak who served as a military adviser to the secretary of defense, National Security Council, and the president.

He’s also a career fighter pilot with more than 6,000 hours under his belt, including time as a solo pilot with the elite Thunderbirds.

The General's book Hangar Flying is about his time being ringside during one of the most tumultuous times in recent history as an attack pilot and high-speed forward air controller over Vietnam.

In this episode, we talk on a wide-range of topics including:

• [1:35] The Mandatory Fun crew introduces General McPeak and his epic resume.
• [4:00] How allied troops managed to set traps on their North Vietnamese enemy.
• [7:00] The general discusses what it was like kicking off Operation Desert Storm.
• [10:30] The reasons behind why air doctrine changed since the Vietnam War ended.
• [13:45] The general breaks down the stats of the fighter pilots who have been shot down.
• [21:00] What it's like flying in an Air Force air show in front of political VIPs.
• [28:50] What influences the general had on Ken Burn's PBS Vietnam documentary and what it was like working with the filmmaking legend.
• [34:35] How the Air Force attempts to retain it's outstanding and well-trained fighter pilots.
• [35:30] What things the general loved about being a fighter pilot.
• [45:15] The importance of having nuclear weapons on station.