This week, The Golden State Killer, pleaded guilty to 13 murders and 13 charges of kidnapping in a crime spree that terrorized California from 1973 to 1986. His capture was aided by the help of a team of investigative writers including my guest Billy Jensen, who is co-author of a book about the case that is also now an HBO series called I'll Be Gone In The Dark. I revisit my 2018 conversation with Jensen, in which he talks to me about this horrifying story, the process of writing the book, and his path to becoming a true-crime journalist and author.