Most people think light therapy is about buying the brightest panel or sitting in a sauna longer.

This conversation changes that.

In this episode of the 90% Healthy Podcast, Don Moxley sits down with Robbie Bresser, co-founder and Chief Science Officer of TheraSage, to unpack why how light is delivered matters more than how much, and why many people unknowingly misuse light therapy.

What started as a father’s search for healing when his daughter was diagnosed with Lyme disease turned into a deep exploration of infrared biology, photobiomodulation, mitochondrial health, nervous system regulation, and recovery.

Together, they explore:

• Why light therapy should be treated as biological signaling

• The real difference between infrared, near-infrared, and red light

• Why more light isn’t always better and when it can backfire

• How combining light, PEMF, and microcurrent changes recovery outcomes

• What most devices get wrong about proximity, dosing, and EMF exposure

• How athletes, high performers, and burned-out professionals can use light therapy more intelligently

🎧 Listen to learn more about recovery, longevity, nervous system health, and using technology in alignment with biology

Host: Don Moxley | http://trainrecoverwin.com

Guest: Robby Besner | http://therasage.com/

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Who's the 90% Healthy Podcast for?

It’s for you who wants to build a resilient body without losing your mind. If you are sick of counting every calorie, tracking too many stats, or not even wanting to start, yet ready to stop feeling just “OK”. Klaudia and Don invite you to build resilient health that bends with real life. No rigid rules. No guilt. Just simple 1% shifts that create a strong foundation, so you can sleep like a baby, perform like a boss. and feel damn good. We cut through the noise, bring you real science (not TikTok trends), and make it easy to understand what works for the long run.

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