If you'd told me a year ago that Rob Bell would be my first guest on this silly little podcast, I never would have believed you. But here we are! Welcome. In this episode, Rob and I talk about his new book, Where'd You Park Your Spaceship, which is delightful by the way. We also talk about hope, the Atlantic Ocean, and of course...how to be a grow up.

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