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How to be someone else – with Philip Zave, aka PÈZO the poet


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Are you proud of the version of yourself who is showing up today? And how do you step into the next version of when you're still tethered to this one?

Today,  we get to explore this question (and more!) with two really interesting people: Philip Zave and PÈZO the poet.  As you begin the episode, though, you might notice something a little odd about this. And that's because Philip and PÈZO are the same person!

Philip is a poetic embodiment teacher, photographer, and cohost of WOMMcast, a podcast about two humans on a quest to sell a $10 million photograph. In this podcast, he and his cohost explore what it takes to physically, emotionally, and energetically to make this $10 million feat possible. (becoming PÈZO)

Our most intriguing guest(s) have come to teach us some really cool things about identity and how we can shift, move, and shed aspects of ourselves at our whim. The philosopher in me geeked out a bit during this convo, and it was a lot of fun to poke around at these concepts with someone who has thought so deeply about them.

Hope you enjoy!

Listen in to hear:

  • What's sing you from being fully present with yourself today
  • Why you should learn to listen to the wisdom of your body
  • How rigorously tuning into our body can help you shed old identities and step into new ones
  • How to truly give birth to the power of your own artistry

Here are the books Pezo mentioned in this episode:
War of Art by Steven Pressfield
You are the Universe by Ram Dass

Meet PÈZO the poet
Philip Zave aka PÈZO the poet is a world class transformational photographer, typewriter poet, idea doer and the founder of WOMM. WOMM is a paradigm shifting international organization that invites us to tap deep into our artistry and co-create meaningful experiences at work, in our family,  across our communities and the natural world. Philip loves nature walks, deep conversations and exploring the big and the small. He currently lives in Toronto with his beloved wife Jenny (a kindergarten teacher) and his spunky cat Chester Laroo.

You can reach out to Philip on instagram @pezothepoet and ask about the joining the spring cohort of WOMMacademy, a restorative group program that supports us in discovering thriving alignment, abundance and artistry. Listen to his podcast, WOMMcast.

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Music created and produced by Matt Bollenbach

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